So this is what it’s like to be discriminated against. I’ve never thought about heterosexism much before, it was just the natural order of things; same-sex marriage wasn’t a reality to me until it became real – you can’t miss something you never had.
Thanks to USAA, I know what it’s like to feel discrimination. More precisely, I know what it’s like to have equality dangled in front of you and then snatched away. I feel almost like a cat who played with a toy on a string but suddenly had it jerked away…I had equality in my grasp, I could hold it and touch it and be overjoyed by it, and now it’s gone.
I got a phone call from USAA today while I was eating dinner with friends on campus. As I walked to my car, I listened to the voicemail and learned that there was “an issue” with my account and I needed to call them back. I figured it could be one of two things – either they wanted to follow up on the car insurance quote I started on the website, or they wanted to tell me I couldn’t have my wife on the account anymore. As you can tell, it was the latter.
The representative I spoke to, who was in the Eligibility department, said my account had been brought to her attention by the Social Media department. They had come across my “postings” and traced them back to me, and they realized there was a teensy problem. It seems the representative who listed my wife as my spouse under my USAA account was incorrect; they have “corrected” her and meanwhile already booted my wife back down to whatever “friend” status she was listed as before; her member number is now valid for checking and savings only. (I’ve just checked my USAA account; only my mother is listed under Family Members now.)
I asked the Eligibility representative if this was the result of my blog posting. She insisted that it would have come to her attention at some point anyway, because they audit new memberships on a regular basis. With only four days between my last blog post and this one – and with a weekend in the middle – I guess the Social Media department is pretty busy. What would have happened if my wife had already bought insurance through them as a full-fledged member, and then it had come to the attention of the Eligibility department that we were not really eligible?
The representative was, quite frankly, rather demeaning on the phone. She kept insisting that just because I was legally married in Connecticut didn’t mean that it was valid in Virginia. (Duh, lady.) She also repeated several times that every state is different, and that it was because I lived in Virginia that I couldn’t have the coverage. (Duh, again.) I asked her again and again what the conditions are in which USAA does extend coverage to same-sex partners. She finally admitted that only people who are registered as domestic partners in California – and who reside in California, just in case I was too clueless to pick that up – could receive benefits. I find this interesting – she refused to whether or not things would be different if my wife and I actually lived in Connecticut. California doesn’t even have gay marriage anymore, why is that the only state where they extend coverage?
In the end, all I could say was that I would definitely be posting another entry to let people know that USAA was wrong. She accepted that, and said she understood. Hi, USAA Social Media Department!
Quite frankly, I’m profoundly depressed by this. Like I said, I’ve never had rights given to me and then taken away before. I’ve been a proud USAA member since 1991, and I just don’t know what to do right now. They have great rates, and I’d hate to leave them behind, but my instinct is to pay off my credit card bill, find a new one, and shop around for new auto insurance. I don’t want to, I really don’t. USAA is a great company. But they really screwed up with this one, and I’m hurting because of it. We’ll see what happens – I plan to write to HRC and probably other organizations.
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07 Oct 2009 at 06:00
it is helpful for my assigments thank you so much
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by amateur hoer
19 Oct 2009 at 10:32
I have been with USAA for a while, what you telling sounds like a harsh discriminiation. I would not put up with it and leave them.
Mike.
by
07 Jan 2010 at 10:20
Your post made me think of the list of citizen rights that are denied for same-sex couple. Here’s what I’ve found:
1. Joint parental rights of children
2. Joint adoption
3. Status as “next-of-kin” for hospital visits and medical decisions
4. Right to make a decision about the disposal of loved ones remains
5. Immigration and residency for partners from other countries
6. Crime victims recovery benefits
7. Domestic violence protection orders
8. Judicial protections and immunity
9. Automatic inheritance in the absence of a will
10. Public safety officers death benefits
11. Spousal veterans benefits
12. Social Security
13. Medicare
14. Joint filing of tax returns
15. Wrongful death benefits for surviving partner and children
16. Bereavement or sick leave to care for partner or children
17. Child support
18. Joint Insurance Plans
19. Tax credits including: Child tax credit, Hope and lifetime learning credits
20. Deferred Compensation for pension and IRAs
21. Estate and gift tax benefits
22. Welfare and public assistance
23. Joint housing for elderly
24. Credit protection
25. Medical care for survivors and dependents of certain veterans
Don’t you think it’s too much?
by J
28 Oct 2010 at 03:26
Actually, this is useful… we *do* live in California- maybe we should see if they really will add me to my spouse+domesticpartner’s account!
by r
12 Nov 2010 at 03:50
The reasob why california is different is becuase insurance Auto and Property is regulated by the states. California has the strictest rules when it come to recognition of DP’s for insurance purposes. For companies such as USAA to be able to do business in California they must extend equal benefits to all types of relationships. I know this beucause it took me a whole year 2007 to get USAA to add me on to my BF’s insurance as a spouse. But my research and with conversation with the California insurance regulator I learned that USAA is mandated to extend all benefits to me and to treat my relationship the same as a married person.
by r
12 Nov 2010 at 03:51
BTW this is why USAA would prefer if the US gov regulated insurance. The US gov is more lenient…
by David
19 Feb 2011 at 12:31
I am running into a similar issue and would like to talk more with those of you that have posted. In applying for a home equity loan with USAA – I am a member – my (California) partner’s income is being disallowed because he is not ‘a member’ although he is on title and on the underlying primary mortgage. Is it just the Insurance products that are regulated in CA – or are there domestic partnership protections in CA regulations relative to home lending apply to USAA as well?
by
08 May 2011 at 06:23
The Government shouldn’t turn their back on same sex couples…we are also citizens of the country after all.
by Jason Cabot
04 Jun 2011 at 00:49
I am a former USAA employee and this is truly disgraceful.
by kaleigh williams
25 Jul 2011 at 15:19
I am currently experiencing a similar issue, and upon googling ‘can my same-sex wife be on my accounts at USAA’, I found your blog.
we were married (legally) in NH and reside currently in FL. she is on my auto insurance through USAA, listed as ‘friend’, though we had to prove to USAA that we shared income and household responsibilities.
I just tried to update MY personal account online to show as married, and when I did, I received a message to contact the bank via phone.
when are we going to catch a break?
by CB
27 Aug 2011 at 08:10
I too am a USAA member, since ’85. I would hope USAA would be more progressive and proactive…since they now offer membership to any number of generations beyond the service member who originally became a member.
It wasn’t very long ago they discriminated against veterans who hadn’t become members while on active duty or “X” amount of time after…but would sign up any number of non-veteran relatives.
When claiming to represent and serve military members/veterans, USAA does blatantly discriminate against gays & lesbians…and as stated previously, attempts to diminish marriage/domestic partnerships to “friends” of “cohabitants”.
They have improved slightly over the years but not nearly enough, especially with the end of DADT. Hiding behind unconstitutional discrimination is truly disappointing for a company that is otherwise really great!
by cb
01 Nov 2011 at 18:44
Another sad story about USAA’s homophobic treatment of gay & lesbian Veterans:
by HP
04 Dec 2011 at 09:47
I LIVE in CALIFORNIA and the website is not accepting my registered domestic partner as a valid addition to my application. The webiste keeps telling me that I have to call (it’s too late right now, but maybe tomorrow).
We have an 8 y.o. child together, have been together for over 17 years and are registered. Guess California isn’t quite as liberal as everyone seems to think. I’ll see how it goes when I talk to one of their customer reps. I’m not too hopeful, though. We thought we had made SO MUCH progress out here and then last year with Prop 8, we got slapped in the face with reality. People still don’t like or trust “the gays”!!
How disappointing. I’m only a little, tiny bit evil, but mostly pretty nice.
by
18 Jan 2012 at 20:00
SIGN MY PETITION AT
DEMAND THAT USAA CHANGE ITS POLICY!